View Full Version : Odyssey Dry Cell Life/Failure Modes
Ron Wanttaja
July 7th 07, 09:03 PM
I installed an Odyssey Dry Cell battery in my Fly Baby about four years ago, and
I've been very happy with it.
Lately, though, my voltmeter has been running a bit low, both before the engine
starts and when the plane is cruising. My Microair transponder has a voltmeter
function, and I've verified that the battery is running about a half-volt lower
than I'm used to.  
The engine starts so quickly I can't really tell if the battery charge is low. 
Anyway, I was figuring I had more problems with the generator/regulator, but
when I put an external charger on the plane this morning, the initial charge
current was quite a bit lower than I'm used to seeing when a battery is low on
charge.
So my questions run down to:
1.  What kind of life are people getting with these Odyssey batteries, and
2.  When they fail, what kind of indicators do you see?  Does it just suddenly
refuse to hold a charge, or are there early warning signs?
Ron Wanttaja
Kyle Boatright
July 7th 07, 09:09 PM
I replaced the one on my RV after just under 2 years.
It was a "soft" failure in that there was never a step change in 
performance, just gradual degradation over time.  Eventually the cranking 
performance became problematic.
I was pleased that the retailer provided a new battery under warranty.   The 
new battery is going strong after a year.
KB
"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message 
...
>I installed an Odyssey Dry Cell battery in my Fly Baby about four years 
>ago, and
> I've been very happy with it.
>
> Lately, though, my voltmeter has been running a bit low, both before the 
> engine
> starts and when the plane is cruising. My Microair transponder has a 
> voltmeter
> function, and I've verified that the battery is running about a half-volt 
> lower
> than I'm used to.
>
> The engine starts so quickly I can't really tell if the battery charge is 
> low.
>
> Anyway, I was figuring I had more problems with the generator/regulator, 
> but
> when I put an external charger on the plane this morning, the initial 
> charge
> current was quite a bit lower than I'm used to seeing when a battery is 
> low on
> charge.
>
> So my questions run down to:
>
> 1.  What kind of life are people getting with these Odyssey batteries, and
> 2.  When they fail, what kind of indicators do you see?  Does it just 
> suddenly
> refuse to hold a charge, or are there early warning signs?
>
> Ron Wanttaja
Rob Cherney
July 8th 07, 02:24 PM
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:03:28 -0700, Ron Wanttaja
> wrote:
>Lately, though, my voltmeter has been running a bit low, both before the engine
>starts and when the plane is cruising. My Microair transponder has a voltmeter
>function, and I've verified that the battery is running about a half-volt lower
>than I'm used to.  
For a healthy battery with no load, a half-volt drop at the terminals
would represent a battery that is at an approximate 60% state of
charge.
>The engine starts so quickly I can't really tell if the battery charge is low. 
For a sealed battery, the only way to really know battery health is to
take it out of the airplane and test its capacity with a known load.
Since most of us don't have the wherewithal do to that sort of thing,
the purchase of a new battery is our only reasonable option.
>Anyway, I was figuring I had more problems with the generator/regulator, but
>when I put an external charger on the plane this morning, the initial charge
>current was quite a bit lower than I'm used to seeing when a battery is low on
>charge.
The lower voltage at no load is unusual.  Have you measured the
voltage at the battery terminals?  That would eliminate a systematic
issue in your electrical system.  And a lower-than-expected charge
current could indicate that the battery really has a good charge.
Assuming that it really is a bad battery--and this is just a guess--
there could be a separation of one plate from its absorbed glass mat.
This would leave it functional, but it would operate like a battery
with less capacity.  Alternately, if the battery was ever kept in a
discharged state too long, it could be sulfation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfation
Perhaps a call to Odyssey is in order.  They might have an interest in
an early failure, or at least know the failure modes of their product.
They have a toll-free number (800-538-3627).
>So my questions run down to:
>
>1.  What kind of life are people getting with these Odyssey batteries
I got six years on an older Genesis battery and my present Odyssey (a
PC925)  is still going strong after four years.
>2.  When they fail, what kind of indicators do you see?  Does it just suddenly
>refuse to hold a charge, or are there early warning signs?
The Genesis just wouldn't hold a charge.  The symptom was an engine
that had difficulty cranking in cold weather.
Rob-
__________________________________________________ _
 Rob Cherney              rcherney(at)comcast(dot)net
 Ellicott City, Maryland
Jerry Springer
July 9th 07, 07:01 AM
I installed an Odyssey 680 in my RV-6 Jan of 2003 and it is still going 
strong, I have been very happy with the results I get out of it. I have 
had much better service from it than I have any of the so called 
aircraft batteries.
Jerry
Kyle Boatright wrote:
> I replaced the one on my RV after just under 2 years.
> 
> It was a "soft" failure in that there was never a step change in 
> performance, just gradual degradation over time.  Eventually the cranking 
> performance became problematic.
> 
> I was pleased that the retailer provided a new battery under warranty.   The 
> new battery is going strong after a year.
> 
> KB
> 
> 
> "Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message 
> ...
> 
>>I installed an Odyssey Dry Cell battery in my Fly Baby about four years 
>>ago, and
>>I've been very happy with it.
>>
>>Lately, though, my voltmeter has been running a bit low, both before the 
>>engine
>>starts and when the plane is cruising. My Microair transponder has a 
>>voltmeter
>>function, and I've verified that the battery is running about a half-volt 
>>lower
>>than I'm used to.
>>
>>The engine starts so quickly I can't really tell if the battery charge is 
>>low.
>>
>>Anyway, I was figuring I had more problems with the generator/regulator, 
>>but
>>when I put an external charger on the plane this morning, the initial 
>>charge
>>current was quite a bit lower than I'm used to seeing when a battery is 
>>low on
>>charge.
>>
>>So my questions run down to:
>>
>>1.  What kind of life are people getting with these Odyssey batteries, and
>>2.  When they fail, what kind of indicators do you see?  Does it just 
>>suddenly
>>refuse to hold a charge, or are there early warning signs?
>>
>>Ron Wanttaja 
> 
> 
>
I have dual Odyssey batteries in my canard. The first set lasted about
two years. At the end of the two years they did not hold the charge
well. I found that they are sensitive to charging method. They are OK
if you charge them with your alternator but not if you use standard,
shelf trickle/XXamp chargers. You have to get chargers specially
designed for them.
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SQ2000 canard http://www.abri.com/sq2000
On Jul 7, 2:03 pm, Ron Wanttaja > wrote:
> I installed an Odyssey Dry Cell battery in my Fly Baby about four years ago, and
> I've been very happy with it.
>
> Lately, though, my voltmeter has been running a bit low, both before the engine
> starts and when the plane is cruising. My Microair transponder has a voltmeter
> function, and I've verified that the battery is running about a half-volt lower
> than I'm used to.
>
> The engine starts so quickly I can't really tell if the battery charge is low.
>
> Anyway, I was figuring I had more problems with the generator/regulator, but
> when I put an external charger on the plane this morning, the initial charge
> current was quite a bit lower than I'm used to seeing when a battery is low on
> charge.
>
> So my questions run down to:
>
> 1.  What kind of life are people getting with these Odyssey batteries, and
> 2.  When they fail, what kind of indicators do you see?  Does it just suddenly
> refuse to hold a charge, or are there early warning signs?
>
> Ron Wanttaja
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