Chuck Johnson wrote in message .165.241...
tornado bashing snipped
Combat record: Dismal. Gulf War I. Losses incurred attacking third
world air base defended by aging Soviet Air Defense systems.

Precisely. Losses incurred while flying missions that the usually very
confident US F-15E pilots went on record admitting would be virtual
suicide in their super jets, and that they would be scared ****less to
fly if ordered to do so, but which were none the less deemed
necessary. An impossible job for most aircraft, but only a highly
dangerous one in the tornado.

I can't directly counter you other arguments for lack of references to
back me up, but I doubt you'd be interested anyway.

Rob