In article , "Bill Kambic"
wrote:


The only reason they are "illegal" is because a statute or regulation makes
them so.

The only reason murder is illegal because some silly statute or
regulation makes it so.


Crossing an artificial line is not a crime "malum in se."

When that artficial line happens to be a sovereign nation's border and
you lack legal standing to do so...it is a crime.



Bill If we do that who's gonna cut your grass or clean up after at
at Applebees or fill your larder with produce and mushrooms? BRBR

The problem isn't citizens not wanting to do the work, it is employers who
hire
these people breaking the law to save $, savings that are not passed on to
you.

Well, no.

Ever try to hire agricultural labor? I have offered as much as $15/hr. cash
and had no takers for such tasks as bucking hay, weedeating fencelines,
mucking stalls, etc. I can make a quick trip over to Lenoir City and hire a
crew for an 8 hour day at $50/head. And those sons of bitches will work
their butts off for that $50 (where if I hire 'Mericans I will have to do
constant "over the shoulder" supervision).


Great, so he illegally comes on down with his wife and children to work
your plantation for a periodic $50/day. In the meantime, where does the
money to pay for his and his family's health care come from? Where does
the money to school his children come from?



Are you willing to assume the real costs of health care, education, law
enforcement, etc. spent on these workers? Or are you just content to get
cheap illegal labor and let the tax-payers foot the bill for all the
city, county, and state services these people use?

Not a bad gig you got going: get the benefits of cheap labor while
making society as a whole pay the real costs.


--Mike