Try this:

http://www.sonex-ltd.com/motorglider_definition.html

Tony

wrote in message ...
There was a thread a couple of months ago on what differentiatied a
motorglider
from a regular airplane with a good L/D. IIRC there is a reference
somewhere in
the FAA docs to maximum spanloading, but it wasn't conclusive, especially
for a
homebuilt.

The Europa long wing is a terrific airplane. For sport pilot class, look
at the
RANS products. It's hard enough building a kit, doing it with product
support
on the other side of the world makes it harder. And I'm boycotting the
French.

I'm also put off by their claim that their construction method is
patented.


In article , Pete says...

I generally agree with you Paul,

But I wonder how they would close it, without causing much grief in the
existing and entrenched Soaring community.

I'm not sure how they would differentiate between a Europa Long wing and
a
Stemme, or a DG, or Grob etc. in the regs.
The Europa does quite well as a legitmate low--medium performance
soaring
machine 200ft/min sink and L/D ~27/1

Cheers,
Pete

"Paul Folbrecht" wrote in message
ink.net...
You kinda have to wonder if a lot of attention to this loophole will
cause the FAA to close it. Yeah, "loophole"; that's what it looks like
to me. (Not that I'd like to see it closed by any means.)

Pete wrote:
Hi Sue,

Why hope for the Sport class when you could build the Europa Long
wing
and
fly with a motorglider endorsment within the current rules..... as
few
already are - one such pilot is Dave Anderson as was published in a
recent
issue of Kitplanes Magazine (see
http://www.europa-aircraft.com/Bulle...letinBoard.htm and
scroll
down the page). 140 knots up high ain't bad.

Cheers,
Pete
Europa build A239 (with both long and short wings)


"sue sanchez" wrote in message
om...

Anyone have comments or experiences with this French-kit aircraft?

"http://www.skyranger.net/page28.html" (English language page)

"http://www.greenlandings.com/index.html" (apparently US distributor)

Inexpensive and claimed build-time is short. No welding.

I'm especially interested because I can't get an Airman's Certificate
(take medication) so hope "Sport Pilot" certication will be
available.