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Old November 3rd 04, 02:14 AM
Dude
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Because they know too little about accident statistics, and they believe
that the plane is safer than the statistics show.

Many of the fatalities in Cirrus aircraft have been CFIT. So they want to
take those out. Unfortunately, no one thinks the result would be valid.
The whole point of the statistic is that it is about the only objective
measure of safety. We cannot even predict the performance of a car in the
fatalities per million stats with much accuracy, but after the fact we can
usually see some sort of reason for a failure.

With Cirrus the most popular theory is that the plane is great, but a bunch
of idiots buy them. From one perspective this makes sense, so if you are
not an idiot, it should be safe for you. OTOH, this is ludicrous. The dead
pilots did not think they were idiots either. Strangely, corporate jets also
have a large percentage of CFIT accidents, but no one in that group says
those numbers don't belong. It begs for an objective analysis, but no one
pays for those, and few are capable of pulling one off anymore.

It may be telling to examine the percentage of CFIT's to other planes. Some
people think it is a glass cockpit issue as well. I have not seen numbers
that are telling in this regard, but I believe many of the accidents were in
SR20's that were not glass anyway.

The parachute gets mixed up in the whole thing because we are not used to
it. It would likely be more worthwhile to treat it like any other system
available for safety.



"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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"Dude" wrote in message
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My statement on the 20 vs. 22 number is based on incidents and fatalities
per 100k hours. The fleet of 20's may not have a million hours which
seems to be the least amount acceptable to the statistician types. Those
who refuse to accept the data generally want a different number. The pro
Cirrus crowd thinks you should ignore all the data before a certain
number, and ignore CFIT accidents. The Cessna Beech crowd want an ever
growing history. In other words, to compare to their planes you need 20
years of records and will need 30 years in another ten, etc. etc.


Why do they want to ignore CFIT accidents?

Mike
MU-2