"Anyone" wrote in message ...
I've not experienced problems with 'vfr pukes' at TKI to the point where I'd
avoid the airspace. Sometimes they've been a little busy but they've always
been good about getting me in. I do go to Allicance once in a while but I
prefer taking students (future vfr pukes) to TKI and HQZ.

Oh, and we were all vfr pukes at one time. Hell, sometimes I like to be a
'vfr puke' and do touch and go's for hours.


You're only a puke when you get your pattern so large that it appears
you are on a cross country....if you are over a mile from the runway
and not doing an ILS approach, then you are way out of the pattern...

Craig C.