"Normal" flight. I once gave an instructor a headache. I was
getting checked out in a 130hp 150 aerobat. We did a short/
obstructed field take-off, climbing at around 60mph, seeing only
sky through the windscreen. He pulled the throttle on me for an
EFATO. I managed to not lose any airspeed (that I could see)
and get it going 60mph downhill...and giving the instructor's head
a knock on the ceiling as I did it. He remarked that it wasn't quite
so critical to get the nose down so quickly.

Paul

"Robert Moore" wrote in message
. 7...
I "float" stuff with
all of my new students, makes them feel like an astronaut. And
that's in a Cessna-172.