"Larry Fransson" wrote in message

I don't see the gray. There isn't any instruction required for an ATP.
You don't
need an instructor's signature on the 8710.

True, and in point of fact, I don't think any of us ever encountered any
circumstance that we imagined. This was rainy day hangar talk, where all
manner of unlikely scenarios are promulgated for debate. Fact is, I don't
think I know anyone who got a multi-engine ATP on his own -- it was too
expensive, and we were all hired by airlines who ultimately wound up footing
the bill. I did once encounter a retired AF fighter pilot who specifically
wanted to get a single-engine ATP.

JG