And believe me, I "ain't" no test pilot! - I'm doing good just to be a new
PP :-).

Harry

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:CnLGb.41368$m83.16083@fed1read01...
when you least expect it.. the extra pounds will come up and bite you..

any other day.. and the extra weight would not have even been noticed..

when ever flying beyond the recommendations of the POH, you are now a Test
Pilot, without the knowledge of what being a test pilot means, nor the
training to safely explore.. where man has gone before.. but not
documented
it.

One interesting phase of "test pilot" is "envelope expansion"

BT

"Mateo" wrote in message
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89 pounds overweight? Sounds like this one...
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...08X05676&key=1

Harry Gordon wrote:

I have a question that I know the legal answer for but am looking for
some
alternative suggestions.

Tomorrow, I want to take my daughter and son-in-law on a flight in a
C172M.
We will be flying to an airport almost 50 NM from our departure point.
The
problem is this: with a full fuel load, we will be 89 pounds over the
max
(2300 lbs). The CG is no problem. The only issue is the weight. I
don't
want
to leave one of them behind, and I certainly don't want to leave
myself
behind :-))).

I am hoping that the plane wasn't refilled after it's last flight but
I
won't know until I go to the airport to get the plane. Should it be
full
and I don't have the needed 15 gals of fuel dumped, should I be
concerned
about being 90 lbs over?

Please be nice in your answers. I feel like an idiot even asking
because
I
am concerned and if it wasn't for the fact they are visiting us for
Christmas, I would take one at a time on two separate trips!!! And at
the
same time, I'm not in a hurry to get us hurt (or worse) just in the
name
of
having fun.

Thanks.

Harry