"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Richard Hertz" wrote in message
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I would be happy to. I am qualified to teach math. I don't see what
all
the fuss is about.

So you have not taught , even for a year yet?

No - Just substitute teaching in publlic and private schools.


Granted the pay is less than other jobs, but the benefits far outweigh
the
difference in pay.

Hardly. Live on the pay of two teachers, send 2 or more kids to college,
and drive less than 10 year old vehicles, and then come back and tell me
haw
the benifits out weigh the lack of pay. Don't forget that every year,
your
dollar earned will not keep up with inflation.

Ahh, now we get to it - the cars (and other spending) are the issues
financially. I have never driven a car that was made within 10 years of my
owning it. I live within my means and am able to budget. The benefits
a - retirement that is second to very few occupations - health insurace
the same, and I know of few jobs in this economy where people are keeping up
with inflation. My raise the past two years in the IT industry has been 1%
each year. The benefits (in my priority system a Over 13 weeks of time
off and health benefits and pensions. To some that might not be enough, but
after being in the IT world I have changed priorities and money is less
important than free time. (I also want to teach as I am appalled at the bad
education I see around me and want to help fix it. My tutoring, while
admittedly harly qualifies as insight into my ability to teach classes, has
been rewarding for me and the kids I help.


I am not wrong about the supply of teachers. I know many - some
friends,
other family. I also know administrators whom have told me about the
local
supply/demand.

Not in MY state, or most of the country.

Hmm, I see many many people qualified to teach English, SS, grade school,
etc. the only shortage appears to be in math and science.


I agree there is a shortage of math/science

Then there is a shortage.

Then those salaries should be raised to meet market demand.


but the ridiculous gov't system
won't budge on silly school credentials to teach, so I have to go
through
the BS of a Masters and get "education" education before I can teach.

In NC, you can start teaching tomorrow, and take the required corses as
you
go.

Thanks for the info. I might consider a move down there.


And also, are you so smug, as to think you have nothing to learn about
the
buisness of education? School law, liability, discipline, motivational
techniques, lesson planning, pacing guides, government program
implementations, advanced learners, slow learners, and the list goes on.
You really need to know about all of that, and more. You can no more jump
into teaching and be successful, than you could jump into a plane, take
off,
do a cross country, end up where you want to be, and land successfully.

No, I am not that smug, but I have serious doubts about many of the
professional educators who have dumbed down NY state's curriculum and
constantly teach for tests, and spend money on "technology" while the kids'
basic educations are forgotten. From my experience I think I would choose a
private school over a public school.



Come to NC. We really do need lateral entry math teachers. You might
learn something in the process, and theer is a small chance the students
could, too.

Nice backhanded compliment.

--
Jim in NC

I have done research about this and would not be changing careers if I
hadn't. It is a sweet deal that teachers have - trust me.



"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Richard Hertz" wrote

The bottom line is - there are plenty of qualified people lined up
to
take
the teaching jobs at the current salary levels.

You are so far out in left field, I only will make a couple comments.
You
are completely wrong about the supply of teachers. Perhaps there are
surplus numbers in elementary and humanities, but it is almost
impossible
to
find science and math teachers who are well qualified, and gets harder
every
year.

Teacher's salaries have grown at under the cost of living, under
inflation,
and has meant less disposable income, even when taking into account
pay
raises for each years service. Not too many professions can claim
that
proud distinction.

Come take my teaching job. See how you like it. You won't last a
year.
--
Jim in NC