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Practice rolling the airplane into the turn slower, figure out the requiredpower and pitch.  Keep in mind that if you start to climb or descend in a
 60deg bank, the elevator won't do much.  You either have to flatten out the
 bank or get the pitch/power/bank right the first time.  When you have that
 nailed, start rolling into the turn faster.  It gets fun.  In real world
 flying, you are probably better off with 45deg with flaps and a lower
 airspeed then 60deg and a higher airspeed.  Keep in mind that most planes
 are rated to only +2G with the flaps extended, so don't do 60deg banks with
 flaps.
 
 Mike
 MU-2
 
 "Marc Lattoni"  wrote in message
 news:aJQ3c.73545$Ff2.46917@clgrps12...
 I found a new rental opportunity at CYBW (Springbank, Alberta) with a
 brand
 new 172SP the other day and today went out for a Mountain check ride with
 the chief CFI.
 
 Now, I did two mountain courses over the past 18 months - one with my
 original training outfit and one with the local flying club. All well.
 Ridge
 approaches, choosing the right side of the valley, updrafts, downdrafts,
 lenticular clouds, rotors, 45 degrees turns, etc.
 
 Today we did canyon turns, not at 30, not at 45 but more than 45 degrees.
 Sort of standing the airplane on its wingtip as we turn.
 
 YIKES. I just could not get it all together. What a mess. Any  more of a
 mess and it would have been a real mess, the kind you need soap and Lysol
 for.  So, no more mountain flying until I can get this right.
 
 Anyways folks, any suggestions? I am going to try to get this right
 another
 day.
 
 Marc
 
 
 
 
 
 
			
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