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Old July 7th 04, 05:34 PM
C J Campbell
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"zatatime" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 07:40:39 -0700, "C J Campbell"
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"zatatime" wrote in message
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I don't think he can log PIC unless the person he was with was a CFI.
He said he didn't fly taildraggers for 20 years. This would mean he
is not current to act as PIC with passengers until he does 3 full stop
landings.


Currency has nothing to do with it. You do not have to act as PIC in

order
to log PIC. Read the regulation quoted in my post.


I did. This does not preclude him from needing to satisfy 61.57. The
other person in the plane cannot act as PIC in a P51, while not the
"sole manipulator of the controls" since it does not require more than
one crew member. If he cannot act as PIC because he's not flying, and
the original poster can't act as PIC because he isn't current then who
is acting as PIC?


You have so many faulty assumptions here it is difficult to know where to
begin.

First of all, the aircraft does not have to require more than one crewmember
in order for the sole manipulator of the controls to act as PIC.

Secondly, the non-flying pilot may act as PIC without being able to log it,
as in this case. What makes you think he is not able to act as PIC?

The current and rated pilot remains PIC throughout the flight whether he is
logging PIC or not.

The FAA has made it clear in numerous rulings and in the regulations
themselves that logging PIC and acting PIC are two different things. Their
own test materials give numerous questions pertaining to this matter. I know
of one FAA question that asks whether an instructor that has no medical can
log PIC and whether he is acting as PIC. The correct answer is that the
instructor may log PIC any time that he is giving instruction, but he may
not act as PIC because he has no medical. Therefore he can only give
instruction to pilots who can act as PIC even though he himself logs the
time as PIC.

The last lengthy thread you refer to shows you obstinately holding to this
opinion of yours despite the fact that everyone who has any knowledge of the
matter disagrees with you. You are a minority of one. You are flat-out
wrong. And you are beginning to sound pretty stupid as well.