Jim Cummiskey wrote:
Oops, meant to say "the X-axis aligned at a 45 deg angle to the runway
centerline).

"Jim Cummiskey" wrote in message
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GB, the 45 degree cone Doug was referring to encompassed both sides of the
extended centerline.

Imagine a large X and Y axis superimposed on any airport (with the X-axis
aligned with the runway centerline). There are thus four quadrants. If

at

any time I am moving in respect to the airport in one of those quadrants,

I

will either be in a "downwind" general direction, a "base" direction, a
"final/upwind" direction, and a "crosswind" direction. The "Final/Upwind"
direction represents the domain of what consitutes a "final" in my way of
thinking (which appears to be shared by at least three ATC controllers).

If you approach an airport at 30 degrees off the extended centerline
(something that I'm sure most of you have done thousands of times--as I
have), what leg are you flying?

Regards, Jim


Ok, now you are saying 45 degrees each side of the extended centerline.

So if then I call downwind the controller would say something like:

" You are number 2, number one is a c172, between 10 and 2 oclock, 7
miles, do you have him in sight?"

Well a pretty big slice of sky to look for you.

Yes, you said there was no other traffic, but this is not the point.

GB