"NW_PILOT" wrote in
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I am a local and was at the airport the day the of the accident. It
was over 100 degrees out and high humidity look at the performance of
a almost run out "tired" C-150 when it is 104 degrees out, humid,
pushing gross weight and landing on a short grass strip with tall
trees not far from the end of the runway.



"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
t...
How can you tell from that report?

If they were slow and retracted the full flaps that could be a
problem.


"NW_PILOT" wrote in message
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Read this and see if it sounds like something is missing such as
aircraft
performance and other things.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?...04CA136&rpt=fa







Facts not in evidence your honor.

You asked us to review a factual report and then comment on it. Based on
the report a poster said if you raise the flaps in the situation
described in the report, that would account for the loss of altitude.
You then added a bunch of additional information that was not available
to the reader of the report. ( near Run out engine, high temps, heavy
weight, with obsticles near the end of the runway. ) Now I would
question just where you got all these facts. The average temp in
Portland ( about 10 mile south ) for July is 80 degrees. Now that does
not mean that it could not have been 104 degrees at 11:00am local ( the
time of the accident ) but I wonder about it. You said it's a almost run
out 150. Are you familiar with this aircraft? We can't guess from the
factual report how many hours it had on the engine. Did you you see the
CFI and the student closely enough to accurately guess their weight? The
surface of the runway has nothing to do with this accident as it was a
failed go around, so the surface of the runway is not a factor. According
to the report, the landing was to be made to runway 13, which has 50 foot
trees 1000 feet from the end of the runway. If you can't clear 50 foot
trees 1000 feet from the end of a sea level 2200 runway on a go-around
then I would question where you decided to start the go-around much more
then the aircraft.

Bottom line is there in not enough information given in the factual
report to make a good estimate of what caused this accident.