It's bad, but not that bad. You can penetrate the Crawford TFR with a
squawk from Waco Approach, which is routinely granted for the outer 20 mile
donut of the TFR. It's kind of like a Class B.

If you blunder through, you will get a cool formation flight and memorable
flare display by F-16s, and a slight delay while you talk to real Secret
Service guys at the Waco FBO. A timely-filed Nasa ASRS form entitles you to
an automatic penalty waiver, but only once every five years.

There really is no excuse for blundering through, as the Ft. Worth FSS
briefers are drilled to make sure they give you a prompt and accurate status
of the TFR even if you don't ask for it. I think there have been a lot of
enforcement resources wasted on citations and certificate actions against
casual GA flyers accidentally barging into the TFR. It's a new restriction,
covers a big volume of air near a major metro area, and is one that
frequently, but only sporadically, is in place. It's the perfect trap for
the recreational, weekend-type, VFR flyers, who are not with-it enough to
know to call FSS for an update or call Approach for squawk.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On 16 Nov 2004 19:25:15 -0800, (Dave
Jacobowitz) wrote in
: :


Then I come in and read AvWeb yesterday and I read what is practically
the very same story: http://tinyurl.com/6gacq

That was an interesting article. I especially found this quote
interesting:

By the way, it's a mandatory 30-day suspension if you bust a
presidential TFR. Most other TFR violations carry the same 30-day
suspension spelled out in the FAA Inspector's Handbook, FAA Order
2150.3A, Appendix 4; interestingly, it also recommends 30-90 day
suspensions for failure to obtain a preflight briefing.

So it appears that penetrating "All hat and no cattle's" enormous (in
excess of 3,000 square mile) Presidential TFR will result in mandatory
30-day grounding. Doesn't that endear the leader of the free world to
his subjects, er... fellow Americans? :-(