"ChuckSlusarczyk"  wrote in message 
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 In article , JDKAHN says... 
 
 Copeland, 65, remembers meeting Bush on two occasions. He does not 
 remember the precise dates. 
 
 So much for that cacameme story. 
 
Compared to your whole case based on the old lady Democrat? 
 
 That's all guys like jaun and zoom need ,just a glimmer and it trumps all 
 other 
 evidence. 
So let me get this straight... all of the people involved with Bush in the 
Guard, his senior officers and comrades, all of which had/have good things 
to say ON THE RECORD, are liars, and the 80% of Kerry's Swiftvet comrades, 
who say he is unfit and hate his guts, are also liars, but the old lady 
Democrat that typed stuff for Killian, who recalls Killian's thoughts and 
opinions about Bush which are contrary to the written record, trumps all 
those people....   I see.  I'm stumped.  I give up.   Such powerful logic 
and insight is too much for me.  You are a master of lost causes. 
 
 He's had lots of practice defending zoom ...another example of jaun logic 
 and 
 insight.Now it's 3 lost causes he's defended ...zoom,BD and now this. It's 
 no 
 wonder he's trying to be a reporter. 
 
  And most people would not resent him serving 
stateside any more than they resent active Air Force pilots who served out 
their time in NORAD.  Surely you don't think all pilots who served in 
NORAD 
instead of Vietnam are shirkers do you???? 
 
 In these peoples minds no other service counts unless it's kerry's.Every 
 sin is 
 forgiven unless it's a conservative or Republican and everyone  is a dummy 
 unless you vote democrat. 
 
 
Anyway, even if we accept your case that he wasn't in Alabama, nobody 
really 
cares whether Bush appeared for some drills or not in the waning days of 
the 
war when the air force and Guard were trying to unload a glut of pilots 
anyway.  I mean, lets compare... during this time your boy Kerry was busy 
being a traitor meeting secretly with VC reps as a commssioned officer of 
the Naval Reserve then coming back to lobby for their cause, something 
that 
you don't dispute (you can't really, it's the documented truth), and that 
was infintely more despicable than not having proof of attending some 
completely redundant drills in '72 in Alabama. 
 
 That's where I find kerry most repulsive,his trips to Paris while 
 Americans were 
 still in the Hanoi Hilton and on the ground in Nam. He could have 
 protested the 
 war and bitched about the  Gov'ment but his description of our soldiers 
 while 
 they were still afield is treason in my book. 
 
 
How can you possibly support a candidate who was doing these things? 
Surely 
you don't think the winter soldier smear, being a lobbyist for the North 
Vietnamese at home, being a prop for the North to use against POWs, etc., 
was the right thing to do?  He has never disavowed these things, never 
apologized for them.  For god's sake even Jane Fonda apologized to 
vets!!!! 
 
 Best as I can tell America has 3 traitors Benedict Arnold,Jane Fonda and 
 John 
 Kerry. Klinton might still make the list after his total history is out. 
 
 
In any case, I'm delighted that you accept the fact that Bush was a 
fighter 
pilot and flew all those hours, and as a matter of fact accumulated over 
three times the minimum requirement of Guard service points over 6 years, 
including the minimum 50 point requirement in each of the last two years 
when they no longer needed pilots anyway.   Excellent.  And he does have 
an 
honorable discharge so he must have got the 50 points for his last year 
somehow.  Most lefties like M Moore simply claim he signed up and 
disappeared at the start.  This is progress. 
 
 Have you heard that the reason that kerry won't sign to release "all" his 
 records is that he just got his honorable discharge during the Klinton 
 years? 
 I've been trying to find more data to see if this is true or an urban 
 legend. 
 
This has been fun man.  Very simulating. 
 
 Yours and jauns dialog was an interesting study of the difference between 
 a 
 logic and reasoned approach (yours) and the illogical,fragmented ,name 
 calling 
 and chest thumping of the left (jaun). 
 
 See ya 
 
 Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret 
 
Hi Chuck 
 
It's been illuminating hasn't it.  It is interesting that he does nothing to 
rebut Kerry's traitorous behaviour, not even making a lame effort to excuse 
it.  Because he agrees with it and supports it, but can't really address it 
because he knows he'll look even more like a moonbat.  Instead he has to 
focus on whether Bush showed up in Alabama in 1972 to sit around an airbase 
one weekend a month, which no rational person could possibly give a rats ass 
about.  No doubt he is a Noam Chomsky deciple (didn't Chomsky or somebody 
using his name used to post on this NG?).  He almost certainly thinks, like 
Noam Chomsky, that Pol Pot was not such a bad guy and if all those 
Cambodians were murdered (hey maybe Kerry was there for that too!!) in 
creating a new society starting from year 0, well, they deserved it. 
 
It's amazing to think about it...they support and idolize a political creed 
that is responsible for more death and misery than any other in the history 
of mankind and think they are the righteous ones! 
 
John 
 
 
 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
			
 
			
			
			
				 
            
			
			
            
            
                
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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