Robert Ehrlich wrote: 
 An experiment in the french Alps made with a group of tow planes 
 mimicking glider flight, i.e. circling together from time to time has 
 shown that transponders, except in mode S, may not be very useful in 
 gliders. As soon as 2 or more gliders are close together, e.g. circling 
 in the same thermal of working together the same ridge, they are hit 
 simultaneaously by the radar beam and generate simultaneaously their 
 responses, which results in both interfering and nothing useful 
 received at ATC. I had the chance of having one of the engineers 
 involved in the experiment as a passenger last September and he confirmed 
 this. In mode S, as each transponder is specifically adressable, 
 this mess will probably not occur, a new experiment using them is 
 planned. 
 
This study is sometimes cited as an excuse to put off installation of 
transponders until inexpensive mode S transponders are available.  My 
take on it is that it addressed a fairly narrow concern, the possible 
inability of ATC to properly discern a group of thermalling mode C 
equipped gliders.  It did not examine whether airborne collision 
avoidance systems would continue to provide warnings when confronted by 
such situations. 
 
The times when I've been surprised by the close approach of larger 
aircraft have been while cruising between thermals, when I'm generally 
alone or at a fair distance from other gliders.  While thermalling, I 
have a view of pretty much the entire sky, and I have a much better 
chance of seeing approaching traffic in plenty of time to avoid it. 
 
Marc 
 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
			
 
			
			
			
				 
            
			
			
            
            
                
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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