Ok, Here is to Mike and CV. Apparently both of you aren't listening.

If you make a turn with just the rudder and the wings level or almost level,
in other words, an uncoordinated turn, close to the ground, THAT will be
your last turn.

If you don't have height abouve the ground enough to perform a coordinated
turn, you SHOULD NOT be turning.

Here's the bottom-line : THAT level turn with the rudder-only, performed at
10 or 15ft height, is what produces the first part of a Spin and results in
gliders hitting the ground with the nose and wingtip first, usually
crippling the pilot.
My gosh, you guys don't seem to get it, or read enough accident reports.


"CV" wrote in message
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Arnold Pieper wrote:
3) "Always fly flatter close to the ground" - Now here is one that
REALLY
bothers me.
This is probably the WORST misconception that insists in lingering
around
hangar talk, internet talk and in other media with many "experts".
It should be replaced with "Always fly coordinated !" or "Fly with the
right
amount of bank for the turn you want to make".
That's the simple, naked, honest truth.

Instilling fear of banking close to the ground is one of the worst
things
you can do to your students.
I really hate people who insist on this one.

I was actually taught from the beginning to always do well-banked
turns to base and final. The instructor explained, and demonstrated
how it is much more difficult to stall, or get close to the stall,
with a good bank on.

Then it may be a different matter if you are _just_ making it back
from a cross country and are so low that you might hit the ground
with the wingtip. Though I have never been there myself I have heard
about people making their final turn "with the rudder" in that
situation. I just wonder whether it would help at all, since there'd
be quite a penalty in height for the unclean flying involved.
(Apart from the fact that there will have been some fairly poor
airmanship involved to end up in that situation in the first place.)

CV