probably read some of the posts on here then, from
the 'flat turn using rudder' brigade.

At 00:42 08 March 2004, Jj Sinclair wrote:
Gary & All,
Speak up, when you see something you think is unsafe.
I don't care if the pilot
listens or not, at least you just gave him one data
point. When he gets several
data points, it may sink in.

I watched a fairly low time pilot enter the pattern
at 200 feet and then
proceed to fly downwind and base, just like he was
at normal altitude. I swore
he was going to dig in his wing tip as he turned final.
He made it and nobody
said anything to him

The next weekend he was killed after arriving at the
airport, very low and
then proceeding as though everything was completely
normal.

TELL THEM,
JJ Sinclair