If a goal of the World Class is low cost gliders

I thought that this was the goal of the club class.

So if the cost is the deciding factor, fly club class.

A 304c may cost more than a PW5- but the all round
performance is better. You get what you pay for at
the end of the day.

For the yanks, your 'bang per buck' in the states,
ready to go.

PW5- 33:1= $1060 per l/d point

304c- 42.7:1= $1311 per l/d point

I know which I'd rather pay. Also, think of the resale
value- which is going to hold its value better? give
10 years of use/depreciation and I bet they are even
closer in L/D per $.

If someone was on a budget and wanted PW5 performance,
why not just go buy a K6?

Lets just send all the PW5's to the states. Or a bonfire.


At 18:54 11 March 2004, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Ben Flewett wrote:

Mark,

So am I! That's my whole point! I would like to
see
the World Class concept take off but we need a better
glider as the PW5 is too many steps backwards (over
40 years) for most pilots to accept.

You talk about the Sparrowhawk or AC4 as candidates
for the next World class glider. I haven't flown
either
of these (and never will). But why would you change
the PW5 for some other piece of rubbish when history
has shown that pilots will not accept such a regression
in performance? In fact, why bother making the change
at all - it's just a giant leap sideways.

The LS4 or Discus 1 would be ideal in my opinion.

A lot of the excitement over having the LS4 as the
World Class glider
seems to revolve around the idea it would cost about
as much as a PW5
and have the build quality of the LS4. I think that
is a hopelessly
naive idea, based on these facts:

$35,000 PW5, IN THE USA, with standard instruments,
radio, and trailer

$43,000 304C (standard class), IN EUROPE, no radio
or trailer
$13,000 trailer, shipping, radio
-------
$56,000 in the USA

Basically, the 304C is an LS4. Now, maybe there are
pilots that think
it's still the better value, even at $21,000 more,
but it's not a cheap
glider. If a goal of the World Class is low cost gliders,
pilots will
have to accept it must be a smaller, lighter glider
that won't glisten
like a polished mirror. Size, weight, and finish do
matter when you are
manufacturing something.

I hope someone with glider manufacturing experience
will tell us why I
am right/wrong about this.

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