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Old July 15th 04, 06:52 PM
Paul Remde
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Hi Tim,

You light jabs at my prototype web site are understandable and taken as from
a friendly competitor. I am certainly impressed with your web site for
many reasons. I've looked very closely at web sites from many vendors
around the world - not just yours. Certainly I keep an eye on the
competition and try to make sure my prices are in line with yours and those
of other vendors in the US. If my prices are lower than yours it is a
mistake. We don't make enough on these products to price them low. You and
all customers reading this can expect my prices to be extremely similar to
yours. Your statement below that I cut $5 or so from the prices "for the
obvious" is not correct. I must have put a few prices on the page
incorrectly - it is prototype page that was created before I received the
price list from Winter. I hope to get the page completed and corrected in a
few days. My goal is that the page will provide a lot of detailed
information on all the options and accessories available from Winter. I try
to add value in that way. I have been surprised at how little detailed
information is available on the Winter products.

The reason the lead-times listed on my Winter site are somewhat optimistic
is because it is a prototype web site that is not yet connected to my main
web site. Also, I'm sure I have a bit to learn about how long it takes
Winter to deliver products - especially custom made speed rings, etc.

I have always heard that you have a lot of instruments and other items in
stock and I applaud you for it. I am currently making major investments in
stock for my company and will have a large number of instruments in stock
soon from a wide variety of manufacturers. I will also be updating my
"Example Systems" web pages with more examples as my list of approved
vendors increases.

I hope we can have a friendly competitive relationship going forward.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

"Tim Mara" wrote in message
...
you can also find more detailed and more "correct" information on Winter
Instruments on Wings & Wheels website pages
http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page21.htm
http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page19.htm etc etc
this is where Paul has apparently copied most of his information and

prices
(cutting a few by $5.00 or so for the obvious)
I by the way have 99% of what is listed on my website "In Stock" at all
times so you won't have to place orders and wait several weeks for
delivery........
BTW, I also cannot make claims to deliver in 3 weeks special orders from
Winter ......Winter is a wonderful company who has supplied quality
instruments to the sailplane manufacturers and owners for

decades......they
are however nearly all hand made instruments (I've visited the

manufacturer
and seen for myself) and special order delivery times can run sometimes

as
long as 10-12 weeks.
My most recent delivery was for reference, delivered here yesterday on an
order placed on June 8th.
sorry to be spamming this group..I said I wouldn't do it and I do try not

to
but after seeing Paul's 3rd or 4th posting of this same message I feel
justified (this time)
Respectfully
Tim Mara
www.wingsandwheels.com


"Paul Remde" wrote in message
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Hi,

I'm in the process of creating my Winter products web site right now.

You
can view the preliminary page at:
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/winter.htm I have added the speed rings

to
the web page but the rest of the data is preliminary.

Thank you,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

"Slick" wrote in message
...
what would the cost be? We have a Winter in there as well as an

electronic
vario, I would have to go to the field to find out what the

manufacturer
of
that is.
"Paul Remde" wrote in message
news:LgRHc.62232$Oq2.6300@attbi_s52...
Hi,

What vario are you mounting the speed ring on? Winter can provide

an
extremely nice one that will fit onto a Winter vario. The

lead-time
is
about 3 weeks.

I'm in the process of creating my Winter products web page. It will

be
available in a few days. I could order the ring for you along with

my
first
stocking order.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

"Slick" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know where I can get a speed ring for a Grob-102 club?

I'd
rather have a manufactured one than make my own.




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