And if you use tow release as your start with no declared 
finish...can you land anywhere you please? 
 
At 05:30 29 August 2004, Stewart Kissel wrote: 
So if a Start Point is declared....you can tow as high 
as you want with out penalty?   And a declared finish 
point altitude is then subtracted from this? 
 
 
 
 
At 05:00 29 August 2004, Eric Greenwell wrote: 
Marc Ramsey wrote: 
 Stewart Kissel wrote: 
 
 For a distance task with 3 TP's and no Start Point 
 or Finish Point declared...does the release from tow 
 have to be the start or can it be declared post flight? 
  If so does the 1,000 meter tow penalty still take 
 effect? 
 
   The finish point can be declared afterward?  It 
does 
   not have to be the landing?   And the 1,000 meter 
difference 
   between start and finish is calculated from the 
post-flight 
   start and finishes? 
 
 
 You can't post-declare start or finish points for 
a distance task.  If 
 you want a start point other than the point of release, 
or a finish 
 point other than the point of landing, you need to 
declare them before 
 flight, along with the turnpoints.  The 1000 meter 
allowance is between 
 the start point altitude and finish point altitude, 
so if neither start 
 nor finish is declared, the difference in altitude 
between the point of 
 release and the point of landing must be 1000 meters 
or less to avoid 
 the penalty. 
 
It's unlikely Stewart was talking about world records, 
but the Code says 
 
1.4.3 Free distance performances for records only 
The WAY POINT(S) of free distance record flight performances 
may be 
declared post-flight. 
 
Since the start and finish are way points, it sounds 
like they could be 
declared post-flight. This would also work for USA 
State records, which 
allow the free distance task. 
 
For badges, it's pretty clear (note the last sentence): 
 
1.4.5.b. DISTANCE USING UP TO THREE TURN POINTS 
A flight from a START POINT via up to three TURN POINTS 
to a FINISH 
POINT. If the FINISH POINT is the landing place it 
need not be declared. 
The TURN POINTS must be at least 10 kilometres apart 
and may be claimed 
once, in any sequence, or not at all. This course must 
be declared. 
 
What I think is a quirk in the rules lets a motorglider 
pilot 
effectively choose the end of the task by starting 
the motor, but the 
unpowered glider pilot must either declare an end point 
or use the 
landing point. 
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Eric Greenwell 
Washington State 
USA 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
			
 
			
			
			
				 
            
			
			
            
            
                
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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