"StellaStarr" wrote in message
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jls wrote:

Good luck, boys, getting by the moral character and fitness committee
for
that flying ticket.


There are a lot of things you can do that carry penalties. A felony
conviction removes your right to hold public office, or vote,

Be accurate, now. In some states a felony conviction does not deprive one
of the right to vote. Some people may even vote from behind prison walls.
In NC a convicted felon can vote, and felons in other states can vote too.
I would have to do a little research to come up with all of them.

The problem with the new airman medical form is not felonies based on drug
use or sale, or alcohol related convictions. The problem is with asking
about misdemeanors and infractions in one's past which are irrelevant to
flight safety. The sweeping new inquiry occurred after 9-11 and my doc, to
whom I pointed out the bothersome questions, was not even aware they were on
the form. "Hell," he says, "I didn't know they'd put that on there. What
are they trying to do?"

"Make felons of us all," it looks to me.



and in
some states you can't get that voting right back unless you file a
petition, wait, and hope somebody approves it. Of course, get a little
buzzed and miss a corner driving on a dark road, and the penalty's
death. You see people every day in the paper who paid that penalty, and
weren't asked if they approved.

Life may not be fair, but the FAA asks you to be honest. There's a good
chance they'll note it, file it, and give you the medical with no fuss.

Ja. Fuer dem Heimlands Securitaet. Sieg Heil!

If you're talking to me, Ma'am, I don't have a criminal record but as
someone who values the Bill of Rights and the privileges, guarantees, and
immunities against oppressive government assured in our Constitution, it
bothers me to see power grabs like these. As well as bleating sheep who go
along with them.

I know. It's not their job to play The Punisher. It's not your right
to hide that past, which after all is on legal record.

You are either being obtuse or haven't done your homework. I explained in
my long reply to Dan that about 8 pilots (whom I polled) had all answered
questions on their airman medical forms falsely. As a matter of fact the
form is designed to induce false answers. Who wants to admit that as a
juvenile he was convicted of joyriding the neighbor's car? In my opinion
these people are all worthy non-felon pilots, but their false answers
subjects them to felony indictments. Read the damn form. It's obvious you
haven't read the intrusive, meddlesome irrational thing which demands to
know if you've even been convicted of jaywalking, or some petty juvenile
offense long ago expunged. If you don't see the harm, the implications, the
dangers in that sweeping officious intrusiveness, then you may be suffering
from Rip Van Winkle syndrome. Or just thick?

Go ahead and tell your girlfriend your record's clear. It's your karma.
But don't lie to the FAA. You're asking for the privilege of getting a
pilot's certificate, and they're the folks who grant it, so you go by
their rules. That's the way it is, babe!

Sounds like a condescending German fishwife advising the neighbor's boy to
comply during early ascendancy of the Third Reich with all the new unheard
of legislation making violators subject to arrest and imprisonment for
fibbing on his application for license to take cabbages to market. All in
the name of safety and security.