"Michael" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:
If the pilot has years of experience on "steam gauges"and none under
EFIS,
there can be (likely is) a steep learning curve.

I'm sure anything CAN be, but what is likely is another matter
entirely.

My experience is that a glass panel is MUCH less demanding in actual
IMC than a traditional steam gauge panel. It's the glass panel pilot
who needs an extensive checkout to go steam gauges, not the other way
around.

Probably so, due to the very different scan requirements.

Thing is, here and now/today, how many expereinced pilots came up on steam
gauges vs. EFIS?

There is certainly a learning curve involved in getting maximum benefit
from the avionics, but the functionality a steam gauge pilot gets from
the steam gauges is easily obtained. It may take some time to get the
hang of the flight plan functions (and maybe even the GPS approach
functions) out of the moving map GPS, but getting the direct-to
function and the ILS/VOR functionality going is easy and intuitive -
and the steam gauge pilot doesn't NEED any more than that, because he's
used to working with less.

One thing I found harder to get used to was adapting/making changes _in
flight_ under the EFIS system (when I was new to it). Once I got several
flights in the logs, it became pretty easy. And that was after working with
CAD systems for many years.


As mentioned, much of the initial training for jets (ie, CJ) is the
EFIS and
FMS and those classes can run over two WEEKS.

Different situation. The jets NEED that level of automation so that a
single pilot of average ability can fly them IFR. They're fast,
they're slippery, they're relatively demanding. Steam gauge
functionality won't cut it for the average pilot, so he will have to
learn the full functionality.

Yes, but that doesn't addres WHY so much training is on the glass screens,
compared to actually flying the fast, slippeery aircraft.


This discussion is about a Cessna-182. It's hard to find a more
stable, docile, and simple IFR platform. You would be VERY hard
pressed to find an experienced steam gauge pilot (in ANY airplane) who
would find it a challenge to fly a C-182 IFR, regardless of the
avionics.

And the discussion is not about flying a 182 under IFR, it's about flying a
totally different avionics system under IFR.