In article ,
"Gary Drescher" wrote:
According to the ASRS immunity policy
(http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/immunity_nf.htm), if they file ASRS forms in a
timely manner, and if their violation was inadvertent, and if they haven't
been found to have committed another FAR violation within the past five
years, then no civil penalty or certificate suspension can be imposed. (I
doubt that a student pilot flying with his CFI could be found to have
violated the FARs by getting lost, in any event.)


"Getting lost" isn't the violation, the violation is busting the ADIZ
and then prohibited airspace.

It doesn't look like this was a student and CFI, it looks like this was
a student and an older private pilot, experience unknown.

Frankly, I'm not sure how you can screw up that badly. I can see
clipping the ADIZ, but to come within 3 miles of downtown, or even close
to that, is penetrating pretty far into where they were not supposed to
be. I will be interested to hear if any further explanation is
forthcoming, because I'd really like to understand how a VFR pilot makes
such a huge mistake unless the pilot was not proficient and did not
adequately prepare for the flight. I'm also not sure that I'd be flying
around down in that area without some type of ground or sat-based
navigation instrument to help ensure that I avoid the ADIZ. The entire
thing is a little puzzling.

If there are no consequences for busting the ADIZ, you might as well not
have the ADIZ. I think the ADIZ is nothing but feel-good BS for the
self-serving politicians, but take that away and you still have Class B
airspace and prohibited areas, which appear to have been violated.



JKG