You've got to be ****ting me. The ATC personnel at VNY have to be the dregs
of the keg. I've had more ATC induced near collisions at VNY than anywhere
else I've ever flown. We're talking five thousand hours here, and a lot of
them at high volume airports.

Jim





I learned to fly at VNY and still fly from there. It's busy, but is
easily handled and ATC personnel there are some of the best in the
business.