"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message
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YIKES! I didn't see that... This leads to another question. I thought
that if an item of equipment was required that it appeared as part of the
approach plate description, such as; LOC DME 29 ????

Here's a similar surprise to watch for: it's common for ILS approaches to
say "ADF required", when the missed-approach hold is at an NDB.

--Gary


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Cecil E. Chapman, Jr.
PP-ASEL

"We who fly do so for the love of flying.
We are alive in the air with this miracle
that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"

- Cecil Day Lewis-

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"Brad Z" wrote in message
news:baw7b.297942$cF.92189@rwcrnsc53...

"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message
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If you look at the approach plate for KWVI/WVI LOC Rwy 2, there is no
requirement for DME. All that's there is a localizer (without glide
slope -

Actually, there is Cecil, according to the "DME or RADAR required" note
in
the top right of the chart..
The reason they want you on radar or to have DME is to keep you inside
the
10NM ring for the missed approach. Just outside the ring is something
just
over 4000 feet due north of the airport.



making the approach non-precision) and a NDB which isn't even part of
this
approach procedure (there is a separate NDB approach for the same
runway,
though).

Thanks for the clarification on the feeder route. By the way isn't
this
approach an example where the initial approach fix and the FAF are one
and
the same?

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Good Flights!

Cecil E. Chapman, Jr.
PP-ASEL

"We who fly do so for the love of flying.
We are alive in the air with this miracle
that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"

- Cecil Day Lewis-

My personal adventures as a student pilot
and after my PPL: www.bayareapilot.com
"Michael" wrote in message
om...
"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote
Anyway (I'm sorry, in advance, if I'm am asking something that
should
be
obvious)

It should be but you're a student so it's OK

I'm looking at the LOC Rwy 2 approach to Watsonville Municipal
(California). There is a procedure turn that sits just before the
'entrance' into the localizer. How does one identify where it
actually
is
(the beginning of the procedure turn, that is)? Does one simply
fly
up
the
localizer and when the localizer signal is lost THAT is where the
location
of the procedure turn sits?

Well, assuming you arrived at the IAF (NALLS intersection) along one
of the charted feeder routes (from SANTY intersection or SNS VOR)
you
turn outbound (South) on the localizer, fly a minute or so (longer
if
you have a headwind), and then do the procedure turn. The only
requirement is that you complete the course reversal (in whatever
way
seems best to you and keeps you inside the protected area) and get
established inbound before crossing NALLS.

Now for the real question - why in the world is DME required for
this
approach?

Michael