"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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Around New York, there are a few places they pretty routinely lose
radar contact if you're down low (around Madison VOR and out near
Huegenot). It doesn't seem to bother them one bit.
PTA-whatever-it-is? Feh, they just ask you to report the next
waypoint and everybody's happy.


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