I understand what you are saying Bill but a safety
cockpit will only go so far. I have said many times
before that once control of any situation is lost and
remains the outcome is pure blind chance. I have attended
many accidents (MV) where you would not think that
anyone could survive and others where I have been amazed
that anyone should die. The only difference between
a fatal and non fatal accident is the body.

A 'safety cockpit' may reduce the severity of injury
but I would hate to think that we as pilots thought
that it is the answer to accident prevention.


At 23:24 22 June 2005, W.J. \bill\ Dean \u.K.\. wrote:
I understand that the LS8 fuselage is an adaptation
of that used for the
LS7, LS6 and LS1F. So the basic design is more than
20 years old.

I have attended a lecture by our (UK) foremost expert
in crash safety,
correct cushions, cockpit shape, straps etc.; he told
us that the LS8 does
not have the safety features of for instance the Schleicher
ASW 24, 27, 28
etc.

One very experienced pilot friend sold his LS4 and
bought an ASW24 when his
new wife started to fly, almost entirely because of
the safety cockpit.

W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.).
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'ventus2' wrote in message
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Sad news indeed.

Accident #1 could have been survivable in a safety
cockpit as she
impacted in a field. Or (maybe) in an old, low wing-loading
glider.

Are you saying that the LS8 does not have a safety
cockpit? I would find
that hard to believe given the production rules in
place in Germany
particularly concerning safety cockpits.

Chris