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Old October 7th 03, 03:54 AM
Tim J
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I agree - and to clarify, the original poster's quotation of the notes
section lacks the proper punctuation. All of those comments are independent
of each other.

There are DME arcs - if you use DME (and that is DME from VOR, not the
localizer) then you must also be able to receive the localizer as well.

As Max T pointed out, you can fly the approach without DME.


"Max T, CFI" wrote in message
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Usually if DME or other facility is required, it's in the title, or in a

note that appears in VERY large BOLD text
and says something like "ADF or RADAR is required" in the plan view.

Neither appears on this chart.
If you use NOBBY as the IAF, you'll have no need for DME, as it's not

required for the LOC MAP (timing
works just as well) and it's not required for the missed approach

procedure.

My read is "if you use DME," you must receive the localizer

simultaneously. It's possible that's so you positively
identify the localizer, and don't start to fly inbound too soon on a false

sidelobe from the localizer antenna. Which
could
ruin your day.
Max T, MCFI

Don Faulkner wrote in message

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Hi folks. I've got a bit of a puzzle here.
First off, I'm a student pilot, so maybe I haven't gotten to this yet.

Take a look at the ILS 18 plate for Springdale, AR (ASG):
http://myairplane.com/databases/appr...l/ASG_ir18.pdf

First, note that the approach is "ILS RWY 18"
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Next, read in the notes section:
Circling NA east of Rwy 18-36, inoperative table does not apply.
DME from RZC VORTAC
Simultaneous reception of I-ASG and RZC DME required.
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So, the way I read this, DME is not required, since the approach is ILS
not ILS DME, but it is required since "simultaneous reception ... is
required."

I guess my real question is, "Is this approach authorized for an

aircraft
without DME? And if not, why don't they call it ILS-DME?" but read on

for
my thinking...