Thanks! That looks a lot like the site I remember using.
One problem - when I clicked on the LAX link
(http://www4.passur.com/lax.html), then "normal" and "start"
it gives an error. Same for the LAS link. Am I doing
something wrong?

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oups.com...
I'm not entirely sure I understand the question, but look
at this page
http://www.lazygranch.com/passur.htm

Regarding routes, you can get yourself a one day pass at
redoneaviation.com and get the actual route of the flight
you want to
take. You may want to look into flightexplorer.com