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Old July 20th 05, 05:28 AM
Doug
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I dunno. It's his job, I don't do ATC stuff, I'm the pilot. But he had
to read off a bunch of stuff to us. Notams I think. It was Center
clearing us into Goodland KS, not Approach, if that matters. He acted
perturbed cause we requested the ILS. I really don't know why. Maybe he
wanted donut or something. Maybe he was in a hurry. Maybe this, maybe
that. Like I say I'm the pilot. I don't do the ATC stuff. Been in a
tower a couple of times and toured Denver Tracon once. Hardly makes me
an expert.

Another thing they do. If you do a touch and go on your IFR cross
country, sometimes they cancel your IFR flight plan even though you
want to continue on. You know, the IFR cross country requires some
landings at more than one airport, so typically you do quick stop or a
touch and go, you take off and they've cancelled your flight plan if
you do it at a towered airport. Go to get your IFR clearance on takeoff
and the guy can't find it. Solution. File a seperate flight plan. I've
had that happen to me too.

One thing with me. If it's VMC and nice and clear, if they ask me if I
can see the airport, I say yes even if I can't. I mean I may not be
able to see it, but I know where it is, right at the end of my
navigation line on the screen. So its a roger I see it. I know this may
be fudging a bit, and I dont do it if there are any clouds or poor
visibility. But they can clear me for the visual and let me descend.
See, if you aren't cleared for the visual, they can't descend you. So I
say yes, and it definitely helps. ATC sometimes thinks I have
helicopter up there or something the way they leave you hanging up
there. But they have these rules. I don't know them all. No one does.