"Yossarian" wrote:

Hawthorne, CA has recently begun a policy of not issuing position and
hold clearances. Can't say I like the policy.

Position and hold (P&H) is an accident waiting to happen. How much
time does it take to wait at the holding line then move into position
and depart versus P&H and depart? 15 seconds? I prefer to verify
that the approach path is clear before venturing out on the runway and
departing.

Ron Lee