"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
news:FkkMb.27887$I06.187743@attbi_s01...

If they want you to follow a SID and you have stated NO SIDS, as far as
ATC
is concerned you do not have the graphical representation in the
cockpit...and they will just tell you what to do. You don't escape flying
the procedure.


Do you also state, NO SIAPS?