"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
| On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:03:18 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote in
| KKgkf.11482$QW2.64@dukeread08::
|
| [If] Class is uncontrolled, no clearances are available.
|
| [...]
|
| In the "old days" it was easy to describe, special VFR
was
| only available in what was called a control zone, which
was
| the controlled airspace around an airport from the ground
up
| to 14,500.
|
| Right. The last time I used SVFR was in the early '70s.
It's been
| amended a at least three times since then, but I haven't
been
| successful in locating the amendments on-line.
|
| Now, SVFR is, in theory, available in any
| airspace except Class A and such Class B as are listed in
| Appendix D, but it is still tied to an airport based
lateral
| boundary. You can't fly a cross-country under SVFR
unless
| the two airports are "touching" their designated
airspace.
|
| Never could. That was what I had erroneously inferred
from Mr.
| Duniho's:
|
| Since a pilot can get a Special VFR clearance pretty
much anywhere
| that there *isn't* Class G airspace near the surface
(generally
| below 700 or 1200 feet, depending), ...
|
| But implicit in his statement is the fact that the only
place (I am
| aware) controlled airspace touches the ground is within
the surface
| area of an airport.
|
|
| The purpose of SVFR is to get VFR only aircraft (pilots)
in
| and out of airports when the local weather is good enough
| for basic VFR once you get to the Class G or from the
Class
| G to the airport.
|
| Yes. Like an occasion where there is a low broken layer
in the
| vicinity of the airport. The minima are relaxed to permit
penetration
| of the cloud layer while ATC provides separation from
other SVFR and
| IFR flights.



On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 17:24:30 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
wrote in
gSpkf.11534$QW2.9670@dukeread08::


SVFR does not allow penetration of the clouds, it just
reduces cloud clearances and visibility required to the same
as Class G below 1200 feet within the Class E near the
airport. It is not a clearance to climb through a layer,
that requires an IFR ticket, airplane and currency.

That's why I used a 'broken layer' in my example instead of a solid
layer.

It is so the pilot arriving at an airport that is below
Basic VFR for Class E, can enter and land without having to
declare an emergency. It also allows the pilot to depart
from an airport that is below Basic VFR when it is possible
to reach VFR condition within a few miles of the airport.

BTW my typo, forgot to type the G in the first sentence,
you corrected with the [if] making it a question.

Class G being uncontrolled makes it parse the same either way.

The FAA has all the regs on-line and also has previous
versions, http://www.faa.gov/
direct to regs
http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...TOKEN=88430961

Yes. Unfortunately, Part 91 isn't included under Historical FAR.