Broken layer is effectively solid ceiling.

Thanks for the note about Part 91, I hadn't looked for old
regs.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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|
| "Larry Dighera" wrote in message
| .. .
| | On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:03:18 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
| | wrote in
| | KKgkf.11482$QW2.64@dukeread08::
| |
| | [If] Class is uncontrolled, no clearances are
available.
| |
| | [...]
| |
| | In the "old days" it was easy to describe, special VFR
| was
| | only available in what was called a control zone,
which
| was
| | the controlled airspace around an airport from the
ground
| up
| | to 14,500.
| |
| | Right. The last time I used SVFR was in the early
'70s.
| It's been
| | amended a at least three times since then, but I
haven't
| been
| | successful in locating the amendments on-line.
| |
| | Now, SVFR is, in theory, available in any
| | airspace except Class A and such Class B as are listed
in
| | Appendix D, but it is still tied to an airport based
| lateral
| | boundary. You can't fly a cross-country under SVFR
| unless
| | the two airports are "touching" their designated
| airspace.
| |
| | Never could. That was what I had erroneously inferred
| from Mr.
| | Duniho's:
| |
| | Since a pilot can get a Special VFR clearance pretty
| much anywhere
| | that there *isn't* Class G airspace near the surface
| (generally
| | below 700 or 1200 feet, depending), ...
| |
| | But implicit in his statement is the fact that the only
| place (I am
| | aware) controlled airspace touches the ground is within
| the surface
| | area of an airport.
| |
| |
| | The purpose of SVFR is to get VFR only aircraft
(pilots)
| in
| | and out of airports when the local weather is good
enough
| | for basic VFR once you get to the Class G or from the
| Class
| | G to the airport.
| |
| | Yes. Like an occasion where there is a low broken
layer
| in the
| | vicinity of the airport. The minima are relaxed to
permit
| penetration
| | of the cloud layer while ATC provides separation from
| other SVFR and
| | IFR flights.
|
|
|
| On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 17:24:30 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote in
| gSpkf.11534$QW2.9670@dukeread08::
|
|
| SVFR does not allow penetration of the clouds, it just
| reduces cloud clearances and visibility required to the
same
| as Class G below 1200 feet within the Class E near the
| airport. It is not a clearance to climb through a layer,
| that requires an IFR ticket, airplane and currency.
|
| That's why I used a 'broken layer' in my example instead
of a solid
| layer.
|
| It is so the pilot arriving at an airport that is below
| Basic VFR for Class E, can enter and land without having
to
| declare an emergency. It also allows the pilot to depart
| from an airport that is below Basic VFR when it is
possible
| to reach VFR condition within a few miles of the airport.
|
| BTW my typo, forgot to type the G in the first sentence,
| you corrected with the [if] making it a question.
|
| Class G being uncontrolled makes it parse the same either
way.
|
| The FAA has all the regs on-line and also has previous
| versions, http://www.faa.gov/
| direct to regs
|
http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...TOKEN=88430961
|
| Yes. Unfortunately, Part 91 isn't included under
Historical FAR.