On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:35:47 GMT, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:Xk0vf.40491$QW2.2848@dukeread08...

An EFC should always be part of a hold clearance, if they
forget, ask.


An EFC is not issued when no delay is expected.

If no delay is expected, then why be put in the hold in the first place?

If no EFC and radios go belly up while in IMC, when would you know to leave
the hold?

Allen