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Old March 30th 04, 06:16 AM
Jim Leedham
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It appears to me needed to find the IAF if radar service is not available...

"Ray Andraka" wrote in message
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Simon,

It may be for the missed, or it may be required to provide a fix where the
altimeter can be checked. In the case of my home 'drome, DME is required
because there are no VORs positioned sufficiently to provide a crossing

radial
for that identification. You need that ID to fly the localizer only, as

well as
to cross check the altimeter and glideslope when on the ILS. A marker

beacon
will also suffice, but recently the FAA has been changing the ILS

approaches so
that the intercepts are at even thousands of feet, and so the marker

beacons are
no longer in the right place.

"S. Ramirez" wrote:

Does anyone know why the Mansfield OH MFD ILS RWY 32 approach plate has

ADF
or Radar Required written on it?

There is speculation on another forum that ADF is required to establish

the
FAF for the localizer approach, but I argued that it is not required for

the
ILS approach, since intercept of the glideslope is the "FAF" for the ILS
approach. The approaches we have in FL are similar but do not have ADF

or
Radar Required written on them.

I can understand that without radar vectors, setting up for the ILS

approach
would require ADF so that one overflies the NDB outbound, stays within

ten
miles, and then comes back to intercept the glideslope; therefore, radar
vectors or ADF would be required for this approach. But this is obvious

on
other approach plates without spelling it out. Why is this verbiage

written
on this approach plate?

Thanks.

Simon Ramirez


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