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Old March 3rd 06, 01:02 AM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Default Pentagon hole NOT SOLELY by 757


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I have not addressed several other major gaps in the Pentagon/757
incident. The fact that this aircraft somehow ripped several light
towers clean out of the ground without any damage to the aircraft
(which
I also feel is impossible,) the fact that the two main engines were
never recovered from the wreckage, and the fact that our government has
direct video coverage of the flight path, and impact, from at least a
gas station and hotel, which they have refused to release.

You can call me a tin hat, crazy, conspiracy theory, etc, but I can say
from my expertise that the damage at the Pentagon was not caused solely
by a 757.


That would have been one heck of a shaped charge. It would have had to
have been as big as, um, as big as... a 757. Secretly installing an
invisible shaped charge of that size without anyone noticing was quite
an accomplishment. The Pentagon has security people who walk around the
building all of the time. It is difficult to believe that all these low
level security types would have been in on the conspiracy.

Or maybe you subscribe to the 'missile' theory. Trouble is, missiles
are not shaped charges. The kind of damage done to the Pentagon would
require at the least a ground penetrating fuel air bomb, which the US
did not have at the time and which has to be launched from a C-130. Of
course, a 757 is a ready made fuel air bomb. And missiles do not have
jet engine fans and aircraft landing gear such as you see in photos
both inside and outside the Pentagon. Neither do bombs.

And how do you explain how the aircraft parts got there? All the photos
there show an intact Pentagon and immediately after a big hole with
lots of pieces of what is obviously a 757. Are you suggesting that they
were trucked in?

There was no nice, neat hole. A 757 is not a beer can. It weighs more
than 275,000 lbs and carries more than 11,000 gallons of fuel. That is
a lot of kinetic energy and explosive energy which, in a plane crash,
is all directed forward to a small point of impact. For all practical
purposes, it might as well be a shaped charge. What, did you think that
the airplane would make an airplane shaped hole, kind of like Wile E.
Coyote makes a coyote shaped hole when he runs through a wall? Real
life ain't the cartoons.

Who says the light towers did not damage the aircraft? There were
aircraft parts all over the place.

The two main engines were recovered. Who says they weren't? There are
photos of at least one of them lying inside the outer ring of the
Pentagon. The photos were taken almost immediately after the crash.

The 757 did not strike the Pentagon directly. The terrorists missed,
landing short of the target. But the plane did skid along the ground
and the trench is clearly visible in the photos.

What I don't understand is why the conspiracy theorists think that
anyone is fooled by their concentration on just one or two of the
photos available while ignoring all the rest that disprove their
theories.

I have still yet to hear a plausible explanation of how someone is
supposed to have accomplished a controlled demolition of the WTC
towers. There are only a very few businesses in all of America that
could do it. It is very expensive. The government does not have the
capability or expertise. Demolition companies require enormous work
crews working round the clock for months to demolish such a large
building. Big holes have to be drilled in the walls at every corner and
every floor and at regular intervals around the floor. Structural
supports have to be removed. The explosive charges are highly visible
with wires coming out of them -- there is no mistaking what they are.
No one could have gone to work at the WTC every day without noticing
all this activity. Suggestions that thousands of people did so every
day for months without noticing that anything unusual was going on are
just ridiculous. It is difficult to picture all these lawyers,
international traders, secretaries, etc., all being in on the secret
and being willing to sacrifice their own lives for some government
conspiracy, or even allowing all this construction and demolition work
to continue in their offices without complaint or even mild curiousity
what is going on.