On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 19:35:21 GMT, "Richard Kaplan"
wrote:


"Roy Smith" wrote in message
...

note saying "Final approach from Saggi Int holding pattern not
authorized. Procedure turn required". What doesn't make sense about
this is that SAGGI is an IAF, and you're allowed to use a holding
pattern as a PT. So, what's the note all about?

That is definitely an interesting approach and an excellent one to use with
students... I'll have to keep it to use in the sim sometime for an emergency
night approach with a flashlight and limited battery life :-)

In this case, you cannot use the published hold as the procedure turn
because the hold is on the opposite side of the final approach course from
the procedure turn; you can do a procedure turn however you want but it must
be flown on the charted side of the final approach course.


I understand what you are saying, but...

If you are established on the 010 Radial inside of NETER and outside
of SAGGI isn't that sufficient to begin a descent to 1800. I realize
a descent anywhere in the hold is not prudent, but I'm having a hard
time rationalizing flying a whole procedure turn if between NETER and
SAGGI a descent to 1800 is allowed.

Maybe there's a subtlety in your reply I did not pick up on, "you can
do a procedure turn however you want." Would this include briefly
flying through the 010 Radial on the inbound turn of the hold and then
re-establish? This would put you on the right (and correct) side of
the radial.

This is a good one.

Thanks for sharing.

z