"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message
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Kevin Brooks wrote:
"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message
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What about Apaches?


Don't have IR/T *nav* systems AFAIK; they do have such for weapons
targeting use, though.

They sure do have an IR nav system. There are two separate sensor turrets
in the Apache's nose. The big one is the Target Acquisition and
Designation Sight (TADS) that you're thinking of, but there is a smaller
ball mounted above that called the Pilot Night Vision Sensor (PNVS). The
PNVS is a FLIR intended specifically for navigation rather than targeting.
The systems are nicely illustrated he

You are right. I went back and read up, and you have accurately described
the situation. My mistake.


http://members.aol.com/ah64info/tadspnvs.htm

And while I think the gunner does have basic flight controls at
his seat, and is a rated pilot, I don't think it as likely that the pilot
would have to be telling him that he has"got it" and basically to keep
his cotton-pickin' mitts off the controls. I guess it is a possible, but
the way I heard the cross-talk in the video made it sound a bit less
likely. I'd be guessing something more along the lines of MH-60, but
again, just a guess.

If Ed Rasimus' post is correct, the guy flying was an instructor pilot.
It's apparently not unusual for the IP to fly from the front
(co-pilot/gunner) seat in an Apache.

Could be. In the end we are then left with two major possibilities; AH-64 or
one of the various 160th SOAR birds.

Brooks


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