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Old August 22nd 03, 03:24 PM
Snoopy
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As an engineer, I am very disappointed that you as another engineer doesn't
appreciate the intellectual property concept more than others. As an
employee you don't own anything. Your employer is reimbursing you for your
ideas, both good and bad. How many of your ideas or designs were completely
useless to your company? did you give back your 'good money' for those
designs?? I did not think so. Your employer is taking a risk on you that you
will be productive and come up with something that is of tangible value to
them. That's how they manage to pay you when your just being creative to no
profit. Now, just when you design something they can market - you also run
out the back door and sell copies of the prints to others, or even post them
on the internet for public information, how do you think this will be
acknowledged by your employer. Or even if one of your competitors 'copies'
the design - but because of having a larger facility they can mfg it
cheaper, hence sell it cheaper. Whose do you think the public will buy? How
long will you be getting your 'good pay' as long as this is happening?

Lets not even get into the legal liabilities aspect of a 'bootleg' copied
plans built aircraft. heaven forbid, a fatal accident occurs, who do you
think is going to get sued? even if they have 100% proof the plans were
illegally copied, illegally sold/distributed, probably even modified by the
builder or new 'designer', (do you think the family of the deceast cares
about the industry? they just want money from anyone they can link to the
accident) the lawsuits would still make a few lawyers rich at the cost of
the everyone in this sport/hobby/industry.

Sorry, for rambling. I don't post often, but I just had to say this.

Jeff 'Snoopy' T



"Jay" wrote in message
om...
If I take someones car, I'm denying him use of that property, but if I
take a picture of it, than he's had no loss.

There are other ways to make money with plans other than hoping that
nobody in the world ever draw something similar or copy it. You can
sell support, by the hour, or per call, or manufacture key componants
needed to complete the kit, or simply be first to market.

Most people in the world have no concept of intellectual property.
The value of something is simply what you have to pay to get it, and
if there is a less expensive way to buy something, they'll do that. I
wish it wasn't true, and I wish I didn't have to have locks on my
doors, but thats world we live in. Best bet is to accept this and
work accordingly. As an engineer, most of my work product is simply
designs or ideas, and I realize my value is that the ideas can be made
into physical objects that people trade for money. My company pays me
good money to do that design for them, but they give me nothing if
they use it more than once. I understand thats the deal, and it works
out okay.




osite (RobertR237) wrote in message

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In article ,
(Jay) writes:


Okay, now I get you. I meant to say that somebody should post the
plans for a "Long EZ like" plane- The Extended E-ZEE. It just happens
to also be a tandem seat canard of composite construction much like a
lot of other copies of that ubiquitous airplane. Information needs to
be free. [beware, troll ahead] We have to get away from business
models that depend on the enforcement of unenforceable laws, if forces
business people into bed with law-makers (politicians).



BULL ****! TOTAL BULL ****!

Law or no law, you should have no rights to intellectual property any

more than
you have a right to take a pesons car. Making a copy of the planes and

calling
it something else is no less theft than stealing his car. Those plans

are NOT
information, they are the results of somebodys work and as such deserve
protection and compensation. Would you work for free? I doubt it but

even if
you do, would you accept being forced to do so?


Bob Reed
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