Jens & Mike,

Thanks for your responses. Yeah I realize that ATC could change on me
at any time but it does seem like you get the same thing MOST of the
time. At least for arrival and departure.

A little history on this, I was flying out of Long Beach, CA IFR for
the first time and they gave me a really complicated departure
procedure that took me 3 tries to write down. It's a fairly big
airport but it's only in class D and I didn't think to look up SIDs.
After I got home I looked and found out that what he gave me was one
of the SIDs. It could have saved me and the clearance guy some grief
if I had looked it up beforehand and knew what to expect.

Since CHD is close to PHX, I wanted to know if they normally give you
one of the published STARs or SIDs.

Thanks for your help!

-Stacy

(MT) wrote in message . com...
(S. Sherman) wrote in message . com...

Hello,

I'm relatively new to IFR (got the rating in Jan.) and also have never
flown into the Arizona area.

I'll be flying from the San Diego area into Chandler (CHD) and I want
to do the flight IFR. I have some questions:


I have flown this route many times IFR.

1. Does ATC normally route you to CHD using one of the PHX STARs? I
did not see any that were really applicable to a non turbojet coming
into CHD from the west. What can I expect?


You can expect radar vectors to KCHD past GBN.

2. I expect clear skies when I arrive so I don't expect to need the
VOR approach (although I could to it for practice). Will they
normally just clear me for the visual or should I cancel IFR when
close?

Phoenix approach will clear you for the visual, you can request a
published approach.

3. What can I expect leaving CHD under IFR as far as routing is
concerned?

You will get the published departure procedure, then radar vectors to
GBN.

Mike

Thanks!

-Stacy