"T o d d P a t t i s t" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote:

"Jim Macklin" the
actual stall is when the tail stalls and looses lift (down
force) and then the nose pitches down because the still
flying wing CP is behind the CG.

If that were true, then it wouldn't be possible to sustain a stall (in,
say,
a C172) by maintaining back pressure on the yoke.

It depends on what you mean by "sustain a stall." I agree
with you that Jim's explanation of a normal stall is wrong,
but it *is* possible (but bad) to design an aircraft such
that the tail stalls before the wing.

Agreed. My point is just that a typical GA plane (such as the 172 I
mentioned) doesn't stall that way, contrary to Jim's claim. And one
consequence of interest to pilots is that you can remain stalled if you keep
pulling back on the yoke (instead of pushing forward as you're supposed to
when you want to recover from a stall).

--Gary