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Old June 23rd 06, 09:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Default Getting the MOCA

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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The MOCA cannot be assigned except within 22 miles of the VOR station, nor
can you legally request it. It's your responsibility to use a Victor
airway within the rules.



You're one for three.

No law limits what may be requested.

ATC can assign the MOCA beyond 22 miles of the VOR if radar navigational
guidance is provided until the aircraft is within 22 miles of it and lost
communications instructions are issued.


If the MOCA is below the MIA do you believe a center controller would
clear an aircraft at MOCA beyond 22 miles?

If a pilot complies with that assignment he will be in violation of FAR
91.177.

That often happens with MIAs and MVAs, but FAA headquarters considers it
a "technical" violation.