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Old July 3rd 06, 12:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Greg Arnold
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Default SSA OLC Region for Flight Claim

Eric, I have been looking at flights by Region for some time. Find the
Region of choice in the box beneath the blue at the top of the OLC page.

However, I had thought this list was by the Region where pilots are
based, but it appears the list really is by Region where the flight
occurred. Thus, there is no way to get a list of all flights by pilots
in a region.


Eric Greenwell wrote:
Jack wrote:
Greg Arnold wrote:
If I am a Region 12 (So Cal) pilot flying in Region 11 (Nevada, among
other places), I must enter the flight in Region 11? Could you cite
the rule that says that?


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I think others will agree that details of OLC rules have not been
clearly presented in the past, though SSA-OLC Administrator Doug
Haluza has gone a long way recently toward making the SSA OLC more
accessible to all of us. If I am wrong in my assessment of this issue,
I apologize for adding to the confusion. I believe this is an area
that needs further clarification.


Maybe not: I can't find any reference to the use of Region in the
USA-OLC, so I don't think Region has any significance at this point.
There are Champion listings, and Statistics by Airfield, Club, All
Flights, and Best Flights, but none by Region.

We have 12 Regions because we have very different soaring conditions and
opportunities in this great expanse called the USA. It seems to me
completely illogical that wave flights in Region 11 or ridge flights in
Region 2 should be considered in comparison to thermal flights in Region
6, for example, when establishing Regional standings for clubs and
individuals.


Maybe I'm missing something, but where are the Regional Standings
listed? I don't see them on the SSA-OLC page or mentioned in the rules.
My understanding is the Region designation may be used at some later
date, but I don't see any use of it now.

These errors sometimes result from keyboard errors in data entry. They
also result when a pilot based in one region travels to a different
region for a contest, training, or recreation and does not realize
that a flight anywhere may be entered for the pilot and for his club
but should not be entered for a region outside the one in which it was
flown.


My understanding is the Region entry is for the pilot, NOT where the
flight was made. That's how I've been entering my flights, including 10
flown outside my Region this year. I didn't even know what Region I was
in for those flights, but you can find out by looking a the trace and a
map of the Regions. But, without any scoring based on regions, why bother?

Entrants, and their competitors, should be concerned about both sources
of inappropriate and misleading information.


Should the Region be where the pilot is from, where the glider is
launched from, where soaring begins, or where the OLC start is? A single
flight could have three different answers for these four questions, and
none of this is discussed in the rules that I can find.