On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:40:29 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

I've never understood why anybody would want to say "no SIDS, no STARS"


Before they were incorporated into the approach plates you had to buy
a separate SID/STAR book. Some people didn't do it because it cost
more (which is silly), and my home base didn't carry them.

HTH.
z