vincent p. norris wrote:

I don't mind turbulence and have flown in some really nasty stuff.....


Turbulence usually signifies cumuloform clouds and clear, instead of
rime, ice. Clear ice, as you no doubt know, is much worse than rime.

Yes, except in the winter. Here in PA (I live just 50 miles north of
Williamsport) we often have strong turbulence in the winter with no
clouds at all. A clear day with 40 knots at say 6000 feet over the
mountains will make it very rought down low with no clouds at all.

Yes, clear ice is much worse than rime and I've only had one significant
encounter with it fortunately.

Matt