On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:09:42 GMT, "soxinbox" wrote:

I use taxing to active all the time. I can't see the wind sock from where my
hangar is, so I have no idea what runway I am going to use.
This serves several purposes, which I guess is why CFIs teach students to do
this.

Uggh...
..
Why do you need to see a windsock to determine which way the wind
is blowing?

1. As someone already mentioned, it avoids two planes getting stuck like
goats on a mountain trail while taxiing between hangers.

I'll allow this argument at (what?) maybe 5% of the airports most
folks fly out of....

2. It lets approaching aircraft know there is ground activity, so that the
approaching aircraft and ground/departing aircraft can avoid using the
runway at the same time. If I am approaching a field and I have heard ground
traffic, I am going to be sure to identify their location before turning
final.

Why would approaching aircraft give a rats _ss about what ground
activity is going on at the airport (especially if it's a big _ss
ex-WW2 air base airport?).

What this behavior is closely linked to (i.e., relying on the radio to

do your "hard work" for you) is the primary "pet peeve" of those
of use who are posting here / complaining about this stuff.

What you are talking about, is having folks blab crap on the CTAF
frequency about their ground-antics that (may) make it less work
for you to approach the airport and land there. I'll freely admit
that if the CTAF is "dead" (not much communication going on)
there ain't a great deal of harm in doing so. However, if you
live on the same planet we do (and there's 6+ fields within 50
square nautical miles that use the same CTAF frequency),
it's a waste of broadcast bandwidth.

It would be better to say clear of 28 instead of clear of active. I prefer
someone saying "clear of active" rather than "clear of ... uh...what was
that... clear of 28."

I'd prefer that aircraft that just landed would expedite their exit
from the active runway and (quietly) taxi back to their parking spot.

At a controlled airport, saying clear of active lets the controller know he
can now give a takeoff clearance to any planes waiting for departure.

????? The controller is *NOT* waiting for you to say that so he can
give clearance to waiting aircraft.... To put in it brief terms,
it's not your "responsibility" to let the controller know the runway
is "available" for the next user....

I guess this probably comes into play when visibility is low and the tower
can't see the planes leaving the runway. I suppose this may not be necessary
at some small uncontrolled fields, but it is probably a bad idea to alter
your procedure based on field size and field visibility.

Hey, if you can't adapt your procedure (or communication protocol)
for the environment you're flying into, I don't know what to say....

If we took your suggestions, and did not announce clear of active at small fields, than you
would get a bunch of pilots trained on small fields not announcing clear of
active when they flew into large controlled fields when it is necessary.

When is it necessary to announce at "large controlled fields" that
you're "clear of the active"? Please site the FAR or AIM that compels
you to do so.

This logic is the same reason I do my GUMPS check even when flying fixed
gear aircraft.

????????? and that has precisely what to do with this topic???

Bela P. Havasreti


"Bela P. Havasreti" wrote in message
...
CFIs, will you please, PLEASE stop teaching students
this stuff?!!! 8^)

On 122.75:
Making 30+ second long position reports, 4500 feet over some
non-descript / podunk town. More annoying when the broadcaster does
so in broken english. Even more annoying when the broadcaster does
so every 5 minutes!

On CTAF:
Announcing that you're taxiing from your parking spot to "the active
runway" at an airport that's the size of an ex-WW2 air base.
Who cares?

On CTAF:
Announcing that you're "Clear of the active". You might think anyone
who is waiting to take off can *see* when you're clear. The only
exception I can think of is a (severely) crowned runway where the
other
end can't be seen from the departure end.

I'll think of some more later.... grins

Bela P. Havasreti