Have you read the Notam's on GPS accuracy. It is entirely possible the
pilot was clear of the Restricted airspace. I have observed GPS to be
off by as much as 5 miles when these notams are in effect. Very
disconcerting when your GPS says you are at the airport and all you can
see is sage brush.

Brian

wrote:
Forget Class A, how about the guy that infringes on restricted airspace
and STILL submits the flight on OLC in order to win a major contest!!

Pressure differences etc can be explained but ploughing through
restricted airspace in this time of GPS is not excusable.

Al


Stewart Kissel wrote:
Before data loggers and the OLC...pilots had no record
of how high they flew other then a barograph, and no
doubt Class A was getting busted. What irks me is
not someone close to Class A...but those that deliberatley
violate and then post their flights. This behaviour
is bad for our sport on a couple of levels...so I whole-heartedly
support Doug and the OLC bunch on keeping an eye on
it. We are much to small a group to be nothing but
dust-in-the-wind if a glider brings down an airliner.
An those flying in busy airspace are to be commended
for using transponders...

Within reason I think a little self-policing can go
a long way, because we as pilots have a much better
idea of what is going on then the FAA(for the most
part). Flame shield activated.
But the pilot community is responsible for reinforcement,
and rewarding
pilots who break the rules gives negative reinforcement.
Aside from the
regulatory issues, it is also unsportsmanlike conduct.
So, we will
remove OLC flight claims that show ovbious violation
of Class-A
airspace without a reasonable explanation. This is
not Orwell's 'Big
Brother' it's more like Big Brothers and Big Sisters.

I'm with you, Doug, but what is 'obvious'? Sounds like
a sticky little
detail. Let us know when the SSA/OLC bunch get it figured
out, will you?


Jack